SOUTH BEND, Ind. -- Surely those within several punts of Notre Dame Stadium wish to shed a tear for Charlie Weis.Well, I guess not.
If such delusional folks actually exist around here, I couldn't find them. That was before and after the priests who run the University of Notre Dame did the right thing by giving Weis at least $10 million in buyout money to just go away.
Since many around campus light candles at the Grotto and everything, maybe this wasn't a coincidence: a dreary morning filled with sleet gave way to a bright moon over the Golden Dome by early evening. Not only that, this transformation happened after word of Weis' firing was confirmed.
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"It's about time," said Molly Conway, a Notre Dame marketing and English major, strolling away from the mural called Touchdown Jesus with Lauren Cook, a fellow senior, who is a political science major. Added Conway, "The general sentiment among the students is that it is definitely time for him to go."
After nodding nearby, Cook said, "I'm not surprised that this happened so quickly following the end (of Notre Dame's regular season). I think we all saw this coming, especially after they lost to Navy."
Notre Dame never loses to Navy, because Notre Dame isn't supposed to lose to Navy, but Weis did so twice in three seasons. He was fired for that, and he was fired after suffering more losses during a three-year period (16) than any of his Notre Dame predecessors. He was fired after always having a clueless defense. He was fired after owning more signature losses (plenty) than signature victories (zero).
Mostly, Weis was fired after five years with the Fighting Irish as a career NFL assistant coach masquerading as the next legend at his alma mater.
Mostly, Weis was fired after five years with the Fighting Irish as a career NFL assistant coach masquerading as the next legend at his alma mater.
With much help from Weis' inability to turn his New Jersey cockiness into a return to glory for Notre Dame, he did the improbable: he became even less memorable than Bob Davie and Tyrone Willingham, his predecessors who also were whacked for shaking down more misery than thunder on game days.
So there I was, standing between the statues of Knute Rockne and Frank Leahy, and first-year Notre Dame law student Spencer Durland came along. He gave his thoughts on the guy who is now the Irish's fourth ex-head football coach since Lou Holtz retired after the 1996 season with the last of those glory days.
"I never was much of a Patriots fan, so I guess you can say that I haven't liked Weis for a while," said Durland, laughing, as a lifelong Buffalo Bills fan from Rochester, N.Y. His reference was to Weis' prolific stint before Notre Dame as New England's offensive coordinator. Added Durland, "When he came to Notre Dame, he made a lot of promises, and he hasn't been able to keep them. It's time for a new direction. I think a lot of people think that probably was the right move (to fire him), especially since Ty Willingham, for one, was given a lot less slack."
Yes and no. Yes, the Notre Dame priests allowed Willingham to keep the Irish mired in mediocrity for only three years compared to the five such years they gave Weis. But, no, Willingham wasn't dismissed without cause. After he started his Notre Dame career at 8-0, he went 13-15 in the aftermath, including five 30-point losses and eight overall by more than three touchdowns.
Weis' Notre Dame coaching career was worse than that. Among other horrors, his Irish managed a come-from-ahead loss last season on Senior Day to a 2-8 Syracuse team that already had fired its coach.
No wonder, Francisco Fernandez shook his head near the statue they call first-and-10 Moses around here. It features Moses pointing upward, where Weis' teams rarely went in the national polls down the stretch of a season.
"To be honest with you, it kind of sucks to see the football team, at least the way it's been playing under Weis," said Fernandez, a senior philosophy major from Boston, speaking with emotion. "We, as students, care about this team. We respect the fact that it's not full of criminals and that it has players who can compete academically. But the thing is, we also want a team that can compete for the national championship. They should be able to compete for the national championship at Notre Dame.
"If a coach can't deliver that, we've got to let him go."
The Notre Dame priests did just that after the Irish ended their regular season at 6-6 with a 45-38 loss Saturday night at Stanford. It was another "almost" victory for what had evolved into an "almost" program under Weis. As a result, Notre Dame athletics director Jack Swarbrick said during his news conference on Monday that he made official the night before what already was obvious. He said he called Reverend John Jenkins, Notre Dame's president, to recommend Weis' termination.
The fact that Jenkins accepted Swarbrick's recommendation was just a formality. To hear Swarbrick tell it, Weis was gone long before that.
"Yeah, well. You know, Charlie and I met regularly and talked regularly throughout this period, and it's fair to say it was a bit of an evolution over time," said Swarbrick, Notre Dame Class of '76, He left his law practice in Indianapolis to become the Irish's athletics director in July 2008. He inherited Weis' contract (a 10-year deal that was slated to expire in 2015) from his predecessor, Kevin White, but he was willing to give Weis another chance this season after last season's 7-6 nothingness.
You know the rest -- more nothingness.
Despite a Heisman Trophy candidate at quarterback (Jimmy Clausen) and other talented players throughout the roster, the Irish were such a mess near the end that even Weis said he could understand if the Notre Dame priests made a coaching change.
"(Weis) knew in advance of the recommendation that I made on Sunday (to Jenkins) that I was going to make that recommendation," Swarbrick said. "We confirmed it on Saturday after the Stanford game, so he knew it then."
So did Weis' players, the only folks in northern Indiana who actually wanted the guy to stay a while longer. Said left guard Chris Stewart, speaking for himself and several of his teammates who were a part of Monday's news conference: "The stigma of what Coach (Weis) is and how he really is, are really different. If you know him personally, you would know what I'm talking about. If not, you really wouldn't know."
What should we know about Weis?
"It's just like with anything." Stewart said. "They're going to notice the things that are newsworthy -- the negativity. But you've got the charities he's involved in, and you have the people that he's helped that he didn't want any notoriety for. I know people who knew people who were involved in some of these situations."
Very touching. It's just that Notre Dame icon Ara Parseghian, for instance, was a wonderful philanthropist and a wonderful coach.
Notre Dame can have it all.
That's why Weis is unemployed for the moment.
Terence Moore is a national columnist and commentator for FanHouse. He is a frequent panelist on "Rome Is Burning," an ESPN show hosted by Jim Rome, that is seen Monday through Friday at 4:30 PM ET. Moore spent more than three decades working for major newspapers, including 26 years as an award-winning sports columnist for the San Francisco Examiner and the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. He resides in Atlanta.











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The students at Notre Dame that are mocking Charlie Weis are nothing but scum bags, students what a joke, try out and see if you can play the game, all talk and a lot of shit. To the students, question, what about the defensive coach????????????????????????????????????????
Idiots
I HOPE ND GIVES THE COACHING JOB TO JON GRUDEN
The NCAA should put ND on 2 years probation for fraud. The next two years could be ugly.
It's going to cost the school a bundle of money, 6 years left on the contract. Whomever did that should be fired too!!!
Notre Dame should lower its expectations college football is a warm weather sport now, South Bend is too far north, top recruits dont want to play in the cold, running backs wide outs cornerbacks will always want to to to Fla. Texas and California.
Lazy reporting. Weis had 21 losses in a three year span, not 16. 9 in 2007 and 6 each in 2008 and 2009.
I'll never shed a tear for ND and the blow hard alums of this has been football power. You get what you pay for. ND should look for a young promising up and coming assistant that can inject a new perspective on your football program. But no. ND will either try and steal someone else's coach; or hire a retread to lead the team. ND should look at Michigan and how it's program has fallen because of their recent head coaching choice; and use that as an example of what not to do. Not only that but, you guys need to get into a conference instead of acting like the greedy stuck ups you are.
Charlie Weis is going to add to his riches in the NFL. He is a very good offensive mind. The problem with that team is and has been it's defense. ND will suck for a few more years even with their lolli pop schedule.
Well, ND got wwhat it wanted, now, they will find out that no one really wants the job. Watch how many neames you hear of that then pass on it. Get Bob Stoops, the guy who can't win a big game if he begged for it. Get the coach from Cincy,lol, he can coach all right, in the worse over all conferance out there. Heck, if Lou Holtz hadn't of cheated while he was there, they would have never won then either. He left the school in terrible shape, but hey, they won a title. ND does not have the patience or the guts to go after an up and coming coach with POTENTIAL to be a great coach. If they did, Stoops and Kelly would NOT even be in any conversation. Go ahead and sign one of them for 8 more years, then, fire them after 4 and give them a boat load of money too, it's the ND way, lol. I mean really can you believe how far they have fallen in just the overall respect of the college? With the IQ's of some of these players in the 80 range, ND will not stoop low enough to get them, which I do commend them for. Look at Florida and the Spikes eye goughing, now the DUI of another so called "star" player. Urban Meyer puts winning above all else in his philosophy of football. He like the entire Florida system is the worst form to show the youth coming out of high school. ND, I hope, wants nothing to do with that fraud of a guy. Florida has done nothing but take Miami's place as the chithole of football players, they just ride Tebows image to get by with it right now.
Correction #2: The university is no longer run by the Congregation of the Holy Cross, the order which founded the school. It is run by a board of priests and lay people.
That being said, while I am sorry Mr. Weis was let go, it is the right thing to do. The bottom line in maojr college football is winning; he wasn't getting it done.
The next coach? At least people are on the right track. The qualifications include experience and success at the college rank, like Parseghian and Holtz had before coming to South Bend.
I think RBs and WRs not wanting to play at a so-called "cold weather" school has some merit; but with the college season ending the first week of December, how often would that really happen? It is more likely to happen in the NFL, when December/January games (including the post-season) are a reality.
Irish fans do want the team to be back in elite status. It just going to take a little while.
Winning at ND in the future ain't gonna be easy! A substantial amount of parity has come to college football. Many of the teams who USED TO routinely dominate cannot do so now. ND's past is quite impressive, but days like those are gone. They may get a rise now and then, but the overwhelming W/L ratio is a thing of the past for them!
Is George O' Leary availble?
The "Win Every Game" syndrome is a myth folks.
ND is way past the time when they should have joined a conference. Guess they thing that they have a touch down Jesus, thus making them above a conference. Big Ten has an opening. You could set up your USC and Navy as your non-conference game.
poor nd, hey times are a changing. Old schoolpower houses are falling by the way side the tourch is being passed. And the damn Catholis don't know every thing my wife is cathic she just laughs about it now......lol
So many comments and so many opinions. That's what makes ND so special. Keep in mind that underneath it all, Charlie Weis is a human being with feelings and a family and when I read nasty comments about him personally, his weight, etc, it makes me so sad that people can be so cruel. Keep it to the facts at least. To people who were raised Catholic, ND is still the most prestigious Catholic University in the nation. If you don't like them, go away and devote your time to praising whoever you like.
Hey Rudy, go sleep in the closet a little while longer NOTRE DAME= THE BRITISH EMPIRE ITS OVER!!!! has been for along time, but you fail to see the writin on the wall, oh i know lets go to war with Aregntina(lets schedule Nevada) we ll win 4 sure!!
If you want a crack coach for ND, hire Dave Campo from the Cowboys, what a jerk, he can fit right in and keep ND losing going forward, Cowboys need to replace this doofus anyway.