
Hours after losing to Connecticut on Notre Dame's Senior Day, Fighting Irish coach Charlie Weis sat down at length with John Walters and talked to the FanHouse writer one-on-one about his experience coaching at his alma mater. The following is what transpired between coach and reporter very early Sunday morning.
SOUTH BEND, Ind. -- The November darkness is unseasonably warm. Charlie Weis steps out of his black Yukon SUV toting two bagels and two coffees. Clad in gray Notre Dame football sweats and shower sandals, America's most renowned embattled football coach, if not employee, has brought breakfast for his first visitor of the day.
The time is 4:28 AM.
"I bet you thought I wasn't going to show up," Weis says with a rueful smile Sunday morning.
"I wouldn't have blamed you if you'd hit the 'snooze' button," the reporter says.
"I spent about three hours last night answering text messages from players and coaches saying they're sorry," Weis says. "I'm texting them back telling them it wasn't their fault."
Earlier in the evening, Sergio Brown stood bawling in Weis's second-floor office in the Guglielmino Athletic Complex (a.k.a., the Gug). Brown, the senior safety whose late-hit penalty in the second quarter provided the game's first tidal shift in the Huskies' favor, feels particularly responsible. Weis was having none of it
"The bottom line is, we're 6-5 and somebody is responsible," says Weis. "That somebody is me. And I have to accept responsibility."
Sometimes you just cannot outwork a problem. Notre Dame is flirting with its second .500 regular season in the past two years. And while the past three weeks have seen a litany of inexplicable player errors, from a pass being thrown into Michael Floyd's back at the goal line to Brown's late hit (the pass was already out of bounds when he launched himself into the receiver), ultimately the buck stops at the man who makes the most of them. This Saturday at Stanford, Weis will likely be coaching his alma mater for the final time.
'Irreparable Damage'
The fourth commandment ("Remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy") is largely ignored during football season, but the coach of God's football team arrives at this ungodly hour every morning. This is the beginning of the daily routine. Standing at the bottom of the long stairwell, Weis grabs the left bannister. He gazes upward in the same way a teenager gazes at calculus homework.
"The damage to Maura and Charlie Jr. is irreparable ... I'll never forgive the people who character-assassinated me without even knowing me. Those people did irreparable damage to my wife and son, and I'll never forgive them."
- Charlie Weis "Sunday is the most excruciating day," Weis says, referring to the pain that he feels in both legs, "because I've been standing up at least four hours the day before. It'll start feeling better by Monday night."
The ravaged knees are the result of an accidental blindside hit Weis took during last season's Michigan game (although he has nerve damage in his lower extremities dating back to 2002, the result of a botched gastric bypass surgery). For a guy who only played high school football and who readily admits that "I wasn't very good," Weis can be as tough as any Big Ten linebacker.
On the play, a punt in the first half, Irish defensive end John Ryan was blocked into the legs of Weis, who was walking down the sideline and never saw Ryan. The blow was catastrophic, causing a tear of the ACL, MCL and PCL in Weis's left knee.
"And that isn't the knee I had to have replaced," Weis says. "One-eighth of my right knee broke off. And I didn't even miss the second half."
Of course, too many people were cracking fat jokes to care.
Weis's catastrophically impaired limbs are just one unforeseen trauma of his encore return to South Bend. During his first go-round, as a student from 1974-78, he was anonymous and single. Now the most visible and highly compensated person on campus, he has a family: his wife, Maura, son Charlie Jr., and daughter Hannah.
"The damage to Maura and Charlie Jr. is irreparable," says Weis, referring to the personal nature of the attacks he has been subject to for years now. "It's watching me get hammered. I'll never forgive the people who character-assassinated me without even knowing me. Those people did irreparable damage to my wife and son, and I'll never forgive them."
On Saturday, Maura Weis, for the first time since her husband was hired, opted not to attend a Notre Dame home game.
"They have the right to criticize the coach for being 6-5," says Weis. "They have that right. It's all the other stuff. You think I don't know that I'm fat? Duh!"
Asked if he should be gone, where would Charlie Jr. would go to college, the coach reponded: "I know where he won't be going to college."
This weekend "The Blind Side," a film based on a true story peripherally concerned with college football, opened. In the movie coaches such as Nick Saban, Lou Holtz and Tommy Tuberville portray themselves on recruiting visits. They are all of them cocktail-hour all-stars, suave, well-coifed and silver-tongued.
Charlie Weis is not that guy. He pays for his haircut with a $20 and has enough left over for the tip. He lives in sweats and his language away from the media spotlight is redolent of another Jersey guy, comedian Artie Lange. To ask whether he has outside interests is funny because if it were not for his interest in football, he isn't the type of guy you'd expect to find outside.
"My wife has four horses, three dogs and a cat at our home," Weis says.
Are you into animals?
"No, I'm into paying the bills."
And about that salary of his, which has been reported to be as much as $4.2 million per annum. "I don't know where they get that number," Weis says. "I can promise you I don't earn $3.2 million a year."
It's still a lot of scratch, and his record the past three seasons is still underwhelming. It's just one more item he'd like to get straight before, or in case, he should be leaving.
The Working Life
Inside Weis' office, photos of his family outnumber football photos by at least a five-to-one margin. A mural of a legendary football coach adorns one wall, but it is neither Rockne, Leahy nor Parseghian; it is Vince Lombardi.
Behind his desk, the large flat-screen TV is already teed up to the opening kickoff of Saturday's UConn game. The only thing worse than getting three hours of sleep is waking up to a nightmare.
"I know where he won't be going to college."
- Charlie Weis, when asked where his son will go to college "I'll watch the replay of the game," Weis says, running through his morning calendar, "and then I'll meet with my assistants and grade the offense. Beginning at 9:30 AM, we've got two recruits (five-star studs J.R. Ferguson, a defensive tackle, and Kyle Prater, a wide receiver) in on official visits and I'll meet with them.
"Then, it's another staff meeting. At 11:45, I'll meet with Brian (Hardin, the sports information director) and Kevin (Green, his personal assistant; Green's wife, Sharon, is the director of Weis's "Hannah & Friends" foundation for the developmentally disabled) to get ready for the afternoon press conference ..."
On and on it goes. All top-tier coaches are workaholics, but Weis, having no football hero pedigree upon which to fall, has always punched in a little earlier and punched out a little later. That is how he learned his vocation, as an assistant coach at Morristown (N.J.) High School, and how he later came to impress the Bills, Parcells and Belichick.
At Morristown High, the twenty-something English teacher would arrive between 5 AM and 6 AM, toting the coffee and bagels, and pepper head coach John Chironna with questions. "John Chironna taught me the game of football," Weis says. "Parcells and Belichick taught me how to navigate at this level, but Chironna, he taught me the game."
And so Weis works and works ... and works. He arrives at least two hours before the sun does. The light in his second-floor office on the south end of the Gug rarely goes out before 10 PM. He flies nine hours to Hawaii for a recruiting visit and returns the same day.
Are there other ingredients to success besides man-hours? Of course. Otherwise he would not be in the situation he is in.
The Line of Fire
Weis' future first-round receiving trio of Floyd, Golden Tate and tight end Kyle Rudolph have only started and finished one game together this season. That was the opener versus Nevada, a 35-0 victory. Fate has a sense of humor, as Charlie Jr. broke his finger catching a pass outside the Gug on Friday.
"He's going to have surgery tomorrow," Weis says, providing his first injury update of the season of a football injury that occurred on campus not involving a scholarship athlete.
The injuries to Floyd and Rudolph are hardly the reason the Irish are 6-5, indeed, with all three players in the lineup for the first half against Navy, the Irish were held scoreless. Sure, Notre Dame has yet to lose a game by more than seven points, but it has also lost five games. Weis understands that such a record may be a mandate for change.
"Lou (Holtz) texted me last week, 'You guys are so close'," Weis recalls. Then came the loss to Pitt, a defeat that might have been averted (granted, it would have set up a fourth-and-16) had a replay official not overturned a called incompletion. Weis has heard that an official may get fired over that game and he shoots his visitor a sarcastic glance as if to say, "Yeah, him and me both."
Weis met with athletic director Jack Swarbrick last Tuesday. Nothing is finalized. You can make the argument that if Weis is fired, then surely quarterback Jimmy Clausen, whom Weis believes may be the greatest player in Notre Dame history ("and, remember, I was a student when Joe Montana was here"), will turn pro. And if Clausen goes, Golden Tate likely does, also.
On the other hand, Clausen, who posed for a photo with his family on the field just moments after Connecticut's Andre Dixon scored the game-winning touchdown -- untouched Saturday, by the way -- from four yards out, may be gone, anyway. And while there is short-term comfort in imagining an offense that includes Clausen, Tate, Floyd, Rudolph and Armando Allen in 2010, with Weis pulling the strings, that still does not address the team's principal shortcoming: defense.
One way or the other, Weis will probably know his fate within two or three days after next Saturday's Stanford game. If it ends in Palo Alto, Weis' agent, Bob Lamont, will probably field a half-dozen offers within the first week from the NFL for vacant offensive coordinator positions."I'm more respected there," Weis says. "I'm more well-liked there."
Weis can be crude and unrefined, but he is honest. Blunt. And a good sport. Immediately after the UConn loss he approached Huskies quarterback Zach Frazer, the same player he had placed fourth on the depth chart at the end of spring practice in 2007.
"Zach and I weren't exactly boys when he was here," Weis says, "but I wanted to congratulate him. Especially after all UConn has been through this season."
No one will likely be congratulating Weis if his tenure comes to an end in the next ten days. A thank you would be warranted, though. He has graduated 96 percent of his players, tied for tops in the FBS, and returned Notre Dame to the front lines of the five-star recruiting battles. He has produced great quarterbacks, such as Brady Quinn and Clausen, as well as players of great character, such as current seniors Kyle McCarthy and Eric Olsen. Almost all of whom, it seems, have his back.
Charlie Weis is 35-26 at Notre Dame. He may not have gotten the job done, but no one could have put in more hours on that job.
And somewhere next season he will be coaching. "I need to work," he says. "For me."


Comments (Page 1 of 5)
Dubs, nice job on stepping away from all of the noise around ND and Weis and showing a human side to the situation. I also appreciate the time taken to acknowledge that Weis stopped the bleeding that was happening under Ty and proved you could do all of the hard stuff that ND asks a coach to do: recruit, graduate, stay out of trouble. I think everyone can agree that the most frustrating thing about Charlie is that the easiest part of his job should have been the coaching on the field and this is what ultimately did him in.
STOP THE BLEEDING UNDER TY?!!! Get REAL!!! They never gave TY A FAIR SHOT!!! The only time OVERRATED WEIS EVER WON WAS WHEN TY'S RECRUITS WERE SENIORS!!! What have WEIS' recruiting classes done since besides LOSE TO ALL OF THE MILITARY ACADEMY'S IN THE SAME SEASON??!!!
please keep him , I love to watch the holier than art tho school keep losing .
Ty beat more ranked teams in his 3rd season at Notre Dame than Charlie beat all 5 years combined. By two. Think about that one a second. And that wasn't even the only year he did that.
Not surprised that the very first pro-Weis comment just had to be an anti-Willingham comment too. Then again, Weis and Walters have teamed up to encourage that sentiment plenty of times the last 5 years.
Re Vaughn D. Gale,
Ty's career is characterized by consistent mediocrity - 76-88-1. Not much to write home about there. He was blown out of his Washington job. He is long gone and his departure not to be lamented.
As for losing to all 3 military academies in one season (I am a Navy alum), West Point has not defeated ND since 1958. Not quite the streak Navy ran up, but probably only because Army plays ND only occasionally in recent history.
If the program was "bleeding" under Willingham's third season then it must have been hemorrhaging throughout Weis's third year. At this point the program must be like a hemophiliac or something.
It's probable that Willingham wasn't the right fit for the job but it's also possible that firing him caused more problems than it solved.
I know, I know, he failed at Washington, but it's not like good coaches are immune to epic failures...I mean heck, Belichick failed with the Browns. Pete Carroll was a mess with the Patriots. Then you've got Mike Ditka with the Saints. I know these are all NFL examples but they're the first ones coming to mind at the moment. The point is it's impossible to know what really would have happened with Tyrone Willingham coaching his own recruits at South Bend, who were far far superior to what he could find in Washington. Let's not pretend that the one good season Weis has had so far proved anything that the first good year under Willingham didn't.
Quality stuff JW. Your stuff keeps getting better. I think the statement in the post which was most difficult to read (telling? depressing?) was Charlie's quote about where Charlie Jr wouldn't be going to school if he were to be fired.
Charlie came in with such a love of the University and it appears it's been beaten out of him. His quote about being more respected in the NFL just reinforces it.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if Charlie is more appreciated 10 years from now, much like Faust has become more liked.
On another topic, where's Mr. Walters going to be keeping the pen warm after the ND season? I'm sure I'm not the only one looking forward to a continued mix of insight and humor on a regular basis. Perhaps as a guest writer for Barney's Blog on HIMYM?
They came down here to play Washington State it was such a class act to see them; so many Texas kids were there! It was fun to see Mr.Weiss talk to them and try to recurit them for N.D. What woud you fight for solgan of N.D. and his speech to the kids that day; and in way looks like the players are doing that fighting for him. For that he gets my vote to stay one more year! So they lose a lot of games in O.T. They win they are Iowa of this year !dammm the man gratudates almost everyone there. If N.D. is about values and education and about fighting then the coach stays especially if Clausen and Tate stay either way what exciting season!
I'd like to see Weis back for another year. The defense only had to be marginally better for the team to be 11-0 at this point in the season. The defense is so disorganized and butterfingered that improvement should be a real possibility.
I am not a coach, I watch Notre Dame every game, and feel really sad when they lose. I am 72 yrs old and will watch everygame next year if I have the Grace of God to do so. One more year of Charlie could bring a winning season,why not give him the chance.
Wow, this is sad. I love ND and it pains me to hear this experience has had such an impact on Charlie's family. We go overboard with sports. It's just a d*amn game, people. The verbal attacks are on human beings. I hope the wounds heal and they learn to forgive.
I have a hard time feeling sorry for Charlie given how much of an arrogant jackass he was when he first got to South Bend. Saying his teams had a decided schematic advantage, that the days of losing to MSU and Purdue were over, and especially how he blew off Joe Tiller in 2005 when Joe tried to shake his hand and greet him.
Don't confuse effort with results Charlie
Weis talked a lot of trash on his way in! He will be eating CROW on his way out. He is NO "head coach"...An "assistant coach" at best. ND was dumb to hire him, and even dumber to give him that type of contract!
Charlie, it's back to the Patriot's to watch the illegal practice film of the team you are playing on Sunday!! The Super Bowl Cheats will always have a spot for you.
What a time for The Fighting Irish....They get Obama & Weis.......JENKINS you have given ND TWO BLACK EYES. No one will ever forget your stupidity!!
Sir ..... sometimes the Wins & losses as a coach doesn't reflect the 'W's' that matter. Graduating 96% of his players says a lot about the character of person/player he is bringing in. Look around at
the supposed TOP football programs in the nation, y' know the ones with better records than Charlie's Notre Dame, and you will not find the graduating rate at 96%. I guarantee it.
This man has been an offensive coordinator for Super Bowl Champs and he is respected.
I am a Notre Dame alumnus and I love Notre Dame football. And Charlie to me is a champ at 6-5.
The players are behind Charlie and so are good and decent people who appreciate the character he has helped build in his players. This country, this world, needs more like him. It's time we recognize that winning is not just the won and loss record in amateur sports. I coach Special Olympians and few of 'em are very good by your definition but they are also winners. So take your horses ass jibe and recognize that fact. What have you coached maybe that has the pressure of ND football? Armchair quarterback....
Unfortunately, there is always a vocal minority that does not speak for the rest of the alumni, but they drown the rest of us out. Charlie outworked everyone, was a good example to the kids, returned ND's recruiting and offense. I wish him and his family the best of luck. I always felt Charlie was a wonderful representative of our Lady's university!
It would have been nice to see CW this "accountable" and frank after the Navy and Pitt games, instead of throwing his players under the Trailways time and time again. No question that, deep down, he's a good egg and the raw emotion, class and support he showed toward his players this past Saturday certainly helped bring out his less brusque side. You could see his pain; it really meant the world to him to come back to his alma mater and succeed, but it just didn't work out that way. He'll find a pro job as an OC or QB coach in about 10 minutes and he will thrive again, doing what he does best.
Kudos to Mr. Walters for his entertaining, highly readable, and, most of all, eminently fair pieces covering the Domers this season. In comparison to Mariotti, the dude's Hemingway, or at least Plimpton.
Claussen will stay, Tate will stay, Rudolph will stay Charley will stay so they can beat the bejeeeesus out of USC----revenge is oh so driven. Claussen will pick up a Heisman also. Bet ya!!!!!
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Mtsweatmore: As long as Charlie is head coach at ND and Handsome Pete is helming SC it will be the crying Irish who are getting the beejeesus beaten out of them! Over and over and over again. You couldn't do it with Brady and not with little Jimmy either. He won't tell you this but little Jimmy knows if he had gone to SC he would probably already have his National Championship Ring and the Heisman as well. I can hear that little green mascot of yours now sobbing, I'rish I was a Trojan. Fight On!