Kansas has launched an investigation into the alleged abusive behavior of football coach Mark Mangino, and some close to the program believe this could be the end of his eight-year tenure.According to anonymous source reports out of Kansas Tuesday night, Mangino poked senior linebacker Arist Wright in the chest during the walk-through last Friday prior to Saturday's road game against Colorado. The incident was reported to athletic director Lew Perkins, who then met with the entire football team Monday.
Suddenly, Mangino is being painted as an oversized coach with an even bigger anger problem. But some people close to the program and familiar with Mangino's brash style of coaching are questioning the timing of the reaction.
Mangino has been largely successful in his eight-year tenure at Kansas, but this season has been a major disappointment after a 5-0 start. The Kansas Jayhawks have lost five straight and at 5-5 (1-5 in the Big 12) must scratch out one win either Saturday at No. 2 Texas or in the regular-season finale to be bowl eligible.
"Coach Mangino is certainly not a person who is afraid to scream and yell," a source familiar with the program and Mangino and his coaching style said to FanHouse on Wednesday. "The funny thing is this is no different than the previous seven years, so what's the big deal now?"
That source speculated this is an excuse to set the stage for Mangino's removal this season. Mangino hinted as much Tuesday when asked by reporters if he was concerned he had lost his players in the fallout of this incident.
"Not one bit," Mangino said. "I may have lost some of the people around here, but not my players."Perkins is believed to be chief among those people. A source indicated Perkins may have been looking for a reason to get rid of Mangino and a pattern of physical and verbal abuse along with a 1-5 league mark could provide all the reason needed to get rid of the coach who is credited with turning Kansas around. Mangino's current contract runs until 2012.
Speculation is Perkins would target UConn coach Randy Edsall as his next coach. Perkins hired Edsall when he was athletic director of the Huskies athletic department from 1990 to 2003 before arriving at Kansas where Mangino was already in place.
"I know there are people in the athletic department looking to make their own hire," a source said. "Maybe this is it."
In the meantime, Mangino and his coaching style have received much conversation these past couple days. A warm and friendly person in public, apparently Mangino can be quite different behind closed doors with his team.
Mangino, by all accounts, can be a tough coach. But how that plays with players and parents seems to be quite varied.
"He's a coach so, of course, he is going to yell," former linebacker and captain Nick Reid said to FanHouse. "There is not a coach in the country that doesn't yell. That's just part of the game. You have to have thick skin to be a collegiate athlete."
Penny Reid, Nick's mom, said she is certain her son was yelled at by Mangino during his four years but said it was all in helping to make Nick a better person and football player.
"That's OK, it's part of it," said Penny Reid, whose son was one of Mangino's initial recruits and played through the 2005 season. "It's just part of it and you just can't take it personally. You are talking about kids who are playing a football game where they are coached to knock somebody's head off or do whatever the catch phrase is at the time. It's rough. Football is a really rough game."
Another parent, who did not wish to be identified, told FanHouse her son's experience wasn't all that great though he was a former defensive starter.
"I do not wish to throw Mark Mangino under the bus, but I will say I think he is probably very hard to play for," she said.
She went on to say that assistant coaches often stepped in to shield the players from Mangino's wrath. Apparently former defensive coordinator Bill Young acted as the go-between for his players. Young left after the 2007 Orange Bowl season for Miami and after a year returned to the Big 12 to head Oklahoma State's defense.
"One thing I feel was real helpful when [my son] was there was when Bill Young was there, it was very nice to have that buffer between coach Mangino and [my son]," the mother said. "He was mostly around Bill Young and he was excellent and he was a wonderful coach and we think the world of him, of course.
"If you are going to report that somebody poked you in the chest, then I'm sure every coach in the country should be reported. This is so insignificant and minor, it blows my mind that somebody would even bring that up."
-- Former Kansas player Nick Reid "I think having the assistants around kind of buffers them from what they may or may not experience with Mark Mangino."
Nick Reid didn't say whether or not he was ever personally touched by Mangino as Wright reportedly was Friday, but he said a poke in the chest really isn't a big deal.
"If you are going to report that somebody poked you in the chest, then I'm sure every coach in the country should be reported," Nick Reid said. "This is so insignificant and minor, it blows my mind that somebody would even bring that up."
Former KU running back Jocques Crawford, who was kicked off the team this past summer, discussed the abuse he received from Mangino during his year with the program on Twitter. Crawford told blogger Jack Nealy he was verbally and mentally abused by Mangino during his time with the Jayhawks.
But Nick Reid describes his experience with Mangino as being positive. Reid also indicated this may be the result of a season that has failed to meet the expectations of many inside of the program.
"He's a great coach. I have the utmost respect for him. He's tough-nosed, but what coach isn't. If you are going to be a great coach and have a great team, you have to be tough with the guys. I don't see anything wrong with it. I had no problems with him the four years I was there, none of the guys I played with had a problem with him.
"I really don't know where this is coming from. I understand they are having a rough season. That happens. That's sports for you, look at OU, USC. They are not having the greatest season but you don't see their players running off saying things about the coach.
"There are ups and downs. Sure the season hasn't played out like everyone would have liked it to, but I don't think it's Coach Mangino's fault. There have been some injuries and other things have happened."











Comments (Page 1 of 5)
Would some team trainers out there please tell these Fat A## coaches to hit the gym.
Amen brother. The speed of the troops is the speed of the leader. This guy gets bigger everyday and I wonder how he can tell one of his players they are out of shape. I like and respect the job Coach Mangino has done at Kansas, but he needs to lose a lot of weight!
Those who can PLAY, those who can't coach.
Absolutely. This guy is so fat! How can athletes look up to a coach who is so out of shape that he looks deformed. Yuck.
Who in their right mind hires a man the size of a manatee to coach an athletic team?
I had a three fingered shop teacher in high school, but this guy is tantamount to a two hooker.
Here's a guy who has turned this program around coaching the same way for the last 8 yrs and things start going a little south and a moron writer calls for him to go over an absurd situation. Give me a break, this just isn't right!
Yours was the first reply that made a bit of sense! First off, Donna, the man is too old to play, grow up! Secondly, his issue with his weight didnt seem to bother anyone as long as he was winning did it? Last of all, what kind of football player cries over his coach poking him in the chest???? Where have all the real men gone??
How would you like to go into the restroom after this guy has finished up.
Thanks Greg. There goes breakfast.
It seems all the comments in this article are from Mom. What mother doesn't feel protective of her son. He poked you in the chest!!!!!!! Wow. This is the KS Jayhawk football team right. Perkins appears to be looking for the reason to make a change. Why not be right with the Coach and if you do not want him.....pay him Lew by the terms of the contract instead of this embrassment to save $600K and fire him for cause.
I played football in the mid to late 80's when it was the Big 8. I'm an OSU Alumni, but most of all I'm a football fan. If Kansas wants to fire the guy that has turned their program around, just do it! Don't try and make something so minor as a poke in the chest the excuse to fire the guy. If a poke hurt this player, he's surely in the wrong sport! Somebody has a hidden agenda. How fast we forget when KU Football was a joke. They were everyone's Homecoming game in the 80's. Leave the guy alone and let him coach!
HOW,IN THE NAME OF GOD,CAN ANY ONE,LET THEIRSELF,GRT LIKE HE HAS HONESTLY?HE IS WAY PAST FAT,EWWWW,AND HE CANT BE MARRIED..WHO IN THE HELL,WOULD WANT TO SEE THAT NUDE?IT REALLY IS DISGUSTING,AND GROSS,AND HE WANTS TO TRASH SOMEONE ABOUT SOMETHING? HIS ONE PATHETIC LARDASS
Wow, you are extremely shallow and judge people by the way they look. How shameful. You need a reality check and I'll bet you need to walk around with a bag over your head.
Nancy, what is shallow about that? How can anybody respect someone who is so abuses their body? We are only on this merry-go-round once and think how miserable it must be to not have the nessessary inches on your arms to reach around to wipe? Shallow? I think not....just real!!!
You know what is shallow about that comment and all the other comments about his weight, that doesn't have anything to do with the "facts" of the story. Has anybody looked at the size of the defensive and offensive linemen? What do you think they look like in street clothes? Judging a person by his appearance is the definition of shallow, because the substance of someone's worth is hardly on the outside.
i have to agree, to see someone who is head of an athletic team look so out of shape and beyond is as bad as seeing fat**s cops huffing and panting when they try to do their jobs. there should definitely be regulations on physical condition.
I'm sure Mangino doesn't appreciate being second fiddle to the KU basketball team. Sounds like it has been an uphill battle for Mangino to get some improvements for football.
So KU fires Mangino - who are they going to get? They are not a marquee school in terms of football. And Nebraska is back, K-State appears to be back, Missouri isn't going anywhere. Guess what KU?? You'll still be mediocre at best.
If you've ever been to the KU campus, primarily around the football complex, then you know it's very, very hilly. Maybe Mangino should be walking instead of taking the golf cart everywhere. Guarantee you that if he started walking up and down those hills every day his players might see him differently (in terms of respect and his weight).
There's something fishy here. I can't believe yelling at players and poking one in the chest is a reason to terminate the coach. I think that KU should not be surprised if their program returns to what it was pre- Mangino!
As a die hard KU fan and alumni, I am thankful for the job Mangino has done!! If some wussy didn't like to be poked in the chest, get the hell out of FB!! If Lew has an agenda, be honest and get done with it. Thank you Mark for the great job over the past several years!!
AMEN BTOTHER, IF THESE WUSSY PLAYERS CAN'T TAKE A POKE THEY NEED TO BE PLAYING TENNIS.