Until now, they've both played it so cool. Bobby Bowden and Joe Paterno, eighty-something-ish college football coaches, and when it's over, one of them is going to have the all-time victory record. Paterno is 82 with at 383 wins. Bowden's numbers are a few months under 80 and 382.But they're both just there for their love of coaching, their love of developing kids. Record? What record? Did I just say, "When it's over?'' That sounds uncomfortable, doesn't it?
Well, Bowden is on the verge of being eliminated from the competition, as the NCAA might take away 14 of his victories because Florida State used ineligible players who were involved in an academic scandal.
Fourteen victories to an 80-year old man is too many to overcome. So Bowden had decided to speak up.
And what has been exciting, is now getting ugly, and even a little morbid. There's no doubt about what this has become:
A Bucket Race.
"I think they're really stepping out of bounds by doing that (taking away the victories)," Bowden told a group of supporters, according to the Palm Beach Post. "Maybe they'll change their minds once they think it over real good.''
So you're getting a peak now inside Bowden's head. This race means plenty to both coaches.
Bowden was asked if he saw this as the NCAA deciding the outcome of the race.
"Oh yeah, oh sure, because I'm not going to stay in it that much longer,'' he said. "It will mean something to me. You'd like to leave something for your grandchildren, and ..."
Hold on a minute. I've heard this before somewhere. We all have. He just wants to leave something to his grandkids? This is exactly the guilt trip grandparents have mastered, playing up how little time they have left. That's how this has become the Bucket Race, where Bowden and Paterno want to get something done before they, well, uh, you know.
The NCAA is in a spot here. In the academic scandal at Florida State, staffers were helping students on tests for an online music history course in 2006 and 2007. It was not said to include football coaches. And the NCAA has ordered Florida State to forfeit victories in several sports for using players who are now deemed to have been ineligible because of their participation in the scandal.
The school has appealed to the NCAA on the football forfeits.
Should the games be removed from Bowden's total, all-but finishing him off in the Bucket Race? (That didn't sound right.) That's a tough one. Paterno said that Bowden should be able to keep the victories, that despite best efforts, no one can truly be sure that he's clean on all records. Still, when the police catch a law-breaker, they don't let him go because they know others were doing it, too.
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First off, it isn't fair to the other teams, the teams Florida State beat with ineligible players, to allow Florida State to keep those victories. But come on, the games were actually played and Florida State won, and it's hard to go back now and pretend otherwise.
If the games didn't really happen, then I guess that will be great news for the hundreds of thousands of people who paid to see, well, officially, nothing. This is a suggestion that you all write to the NCAA and ask for your money back.
And did you see where Paterno, now feeling healthy again, said that he has been coaching at Penn State again?
"Last year,'' he said, "all I did was supervise.''
Should supervisors get credit for coaching victories? This could be an angle for Bowden fans to pursue.
Soon, we'll be looking back through both coaches' histories, looking for hanging chads. This isn't going to end well. It's a fun race with an ominous finish line.




















Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
5-12-2009 @ 9:24AM
joseph evelina said...
Just when you thought you only had to worry about steriods now this Is bionic replacement players or cloning to far fetched Give me a break Lets enjoy the games
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5-12-2009 @ 10:08AM
ammiezon said...
" Should supervisors get credit for coaching victories?"
Thats all Bowden has been doing for the past 20 years. Bowden the cheater - 14 suck it up.
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5-12-2009 @ 11:46AM
ttublu said...
I can't stand any of the three teams in Florida. I am a Michigan fan, and I think Jo Pa just oozes class, but I just can't help remembering what Bobby Bowden did for the Marshal football coaches way back when. That was a class act.
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5-15-2009 @ 6:24PM
Mike said...
You cheat, you lose!
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6-22-2009 @ 12:07AM
personus said...
JoePa is a class act. He could have jumped the pros or gone to the highest bidder and made millions more. He didn't have to donate millions to the library. He's done his best to keep a clean program, even suspending All American(s) when circumstances warranted. For the fact that he's run a good, clean program I hope he retires with the most wins ever. As to prospect of Bowden forfeiting wins, most importantly, I think we need to set a good example for the kids. If he and the program deserve to forfeit those games, and it appears they do, then so be it. It should be telling, amongst other things, that Florida State is only appealing the penalty as relates to football. That would be a horrible message to our young people: When things are most important, it's ok to cheat or cut cheaters a break? Worse things than JoePa retiring with the most wins ever could happen. From a pure sports perspective, I understand the desire to make this a race about on the field wins. But we've seen doping and cheating in so many sports, I'd like to see a good guy win. It sends the right message. And it's a good result. Sports should require sportsmanship and sportsmanship prohibits cheating. Sad if you're Bobby Bowden, but this isn't just about Bobby and Florida State fans. Let the games be forfeited.
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6-30-2009 @ 3:15PM
jranderson219 said...
No matter who has the most wins, I think it should be who has the best ethics. JoePa is in my mind the most ethical coach out there. I have been watching him for years and have seen him pull people off the field by face mask for illegal hits. I have seen him suspend players for violating NCAA rules. No matter how good they are JoePa is Fair and ethical.
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7-28-2009 @ 9:23AM
McLucas said...
Did I once hear that Joe P. warns his players that if they ever engage in a little tribal end zone dance or taunt after a play they will never play for him again? I don't know if its true, but I've never seen one do it. Go Joe.
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